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Pathologist/doctor codes:
| Specimen |
CPT-4 code |
Charge |
Reasoning |
| intra-operative FNA consult7 |
883291*** |
none as of 5/061 |
the pathologist's and
cytotechnologist's participation eliminate repeat surgery1 |
| pathologist performs the
percutaneous FNA/biopsy without imaging guidance |
10021 |
full |
we put a premium on
convenience2 |
| immediate
cytohistological diagnosis for adequacy |
88172 |
none (but see notes, below) |
our effort does
not precisely meet the code criteria on deep FNAs3 |
| using sterile
technique, pathologist insures that specimen goes properly to microbiology
when ordered or indicated |
*** |
none (effort as part of 88329) |
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| core biopsy
touch prep preparation, screening, & interpretation/diagnosis7,8 |
88161 |
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not charged when there is no
core biopsy (it has to do with tissue core, not the FNA specimen) |
| aspirate
cytology interpretation & report |
88173 |
full |
use this code even when slides
are sent in from an office (if a tube of fluid is sent, it is a cyst
aspirate, not an FNA; has a technical and
professional component because this is the only aspirate
cytoprep charge (other than possibly 88172) regardless of using one or more techniques11 |
| cell block
histology interpretation & report |
88305 |
usually not charged if case includes cores
(but could charge one code per each cell block10) |
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| co-incidental
core biopsies (if any) interpretation & report |
88305 or 88307 |
full |
cores are encouraged5 |
| special IHC marker stains done by us |
88342 |
full |
saves time and additional invasive procedures4 |
| organism special stains done by us |
88312 |
full |
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| non-organism special stains done by us |
88313 |
full |
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| review previous slides for
comparison |
88321 or 88325 |
none |
this is often done, but we don't charge for this often- tedious effort |
| spontaneous intramural consultations (IPCs) |
88321 or 88325 |
none |
a given case may have up to an additional six
pathologists review and interpretations within our group |
| intramural 2nd opinion on our
slides, officially requested by clinician |
88321 or 88325 |
none |
infrequent event |
| expert outside consultation
requested |
88321 or 88325 |
expert charges patient9 |
done as needed |
| special marker stains from a
distant reference lab |
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ref. lab charges patient |
assumes that expert interprets |
| transportation charge |
99001 |
we charge if it costs us6 |
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Radiologist's/gastroenterologist's codes:
| procedure |
CPT4 Code |
Charge |
Comment |
| doctor performs the percutaneous FNA/biopsy procedure
without
imaging guidance |
10021*** |
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rare (except in facilities where the
technologist does the imaging guidance) |
| doctor performs the percutaneous FNA/biopsy procedure
with imaging
guidance |
10022*** |
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common; op note might mention
FNA, Chiba needle, aspirating with syringe attached to the needle, or
expressing the specimen (a fluid or clot) into a bottle or fluid |
| radiologist's fluoroscopic guidance
for percutaneous needle placement (implies one code for each lesion
sampled) for biopsy procedure |
76003 |
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biopsies tend to mention a
biopsy gun, possibly "firing" the biopsy device; a tissue
specimen or fragment being removed from the needle |
| radiologist's CT guidance for
percutaneous needle
placement (implies one code for each lesion sampled) for biopsy procedure |
76360 |
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common; biopsies tend to
mention a biopsy gun, possibly "firing" the biopsy device; a
tissue specimen or fragment being removed from the needle |
| radiologist's MRI guidance for
percutaneous needle
placement (implies one code for each lesion sampled) for biopsy procedure |
76393 |
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biopsies tend to mention a
biopsy gun, possibly "firing" the biopsy device; a tissue
specimen or fragment being removed from the needle |
| radiologist's ultrasound guidance for
percutaneous needle placement (implies one code for each lesion sampled) for biopsy procedure |
76942 |
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biopsies tend to mention a
biopsy gun, possibly "firing" the biopsy device; a tissue
specimen or fragment being removed from the needle |
| doctor (probably a gastroenterologist)
performs transendoscopic ultrasound guided FNA/biopsy during esophagoscopy |
43232 |
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| doctor (probably a gastroenterologist)
performs transendoscopic ultrasound guided FNA/biopsy during EGD [ERCP?]
(upper GI tract) |
43242 |
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| doctor (probably a gastroenterologist)
performs transendoscopic ultrasound guided FNA/biopsy during rectocolonic
endoscopy |
45342 |
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Notes/references: ( ***items without a
technical component chargeable by the facility)
- Many years ago, we discovered that we could eliminate the
need for repeat procedures if (a) we were always on standby (deep
FNAs need not be scheduled during usual hours...our constant
availability reduces stress on the radiologist team) and (b)
if the pathologist was in the operative room and (c) helped the
biopsying doctor with the procedure and, by having exact case
information and differential diagnosis information (multidisciplinary
discussion and imaging review), (d) consulted on both the types
(need for cores , culture, etc.) and adequacy of the specimens.
By being there, the pathologist has the opportunity to view the
fresh aspirate color and consistency and discern whether to save
for culture and whether adequate sample has been obtained...and,
depending on the riskiness of the target location and the details
of the differential diagnosis, to interpret when to ask for more
specimen or when to stop. We used 88329 because there was no other suitable code. But, in a coding audit May 2006, we were told that there is no compensation code for this valuable and that we'd just have to quit doing the work or do it without a specific fee.
- If referred patients are electively scheduled for one of our
pathologists to do a superficial FNA, we are usually able to
operate at the convenience of the patient. And, we make a microscopic
assessment prior to the patient leaving (qualifying for an 88172
charge). We promptly respond to radiation oncology and other
services for pathologist-performed superficial FNAs in the hospital.
- Leslie Narramore of CAP (e-mail 22 March 2002), referring
to a CAP web file written about 1999, indicates that this code
88172 is able to be filed for each fine needle aspirate on which
the operator asks the pathologist for a determination of
adequacy (determination implies more than a strong naked-eye
consultative opinion...implying the equivalent of a FS Dx, that
is, an opinion based on rapid microscopic exam). It is also implicit
that the operator will base the decision to terminate the procedure
(or obtain another specimen) on that diagnosis.
- Markers often give both organ-specific diagnostic and therapeutic
information...way beyond what is possible by routine H&E...usually
requiring a core biopsy specimen.
- Cores generally obtain enough tumor for both marker-stain
evaluation and appreciation of the tumor's microscopic pattern
(not so with aspirate smears and usually not so with cell blocks,
alone).
- Some reference labs provide prepaid express shipping. We have
to handle the case materials clerically, and the pathologist
usually has to carefully review slides and blocks to pick the
best sample for the reference test. But we don't charge for such
handling. We use the reference labs for markers which are either
very difficult or unusual. That is, nothing is sent for a reference
lab marker which is not medically necessary.
- Dennis I. Padget, 2 May 2002 CME in Pittsburgh (Padget & Associates,
501 Noland Rd., Simpsonville, KY 40067, 502-722-8873.
- Beth McDevitt, PSA Coding and Compliance, various telephone
conversations and e-mails, Jan 2002-present.
- The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology and The Mayo Clinic
will not bill patients for consults; so, our group or Lexington
Medical Center would cover the charge and then bill the patient.
- Today's Health, Fall 2002, Quantum Business Service, Coding
Q&A by Dennis Padget (noting an official response from AMA
CPT Information Services)
- Pathology/Lab Coding Alert 3(12):95-96, Dec 2002
(posted 10 September 2002; latest additions 14 June
2006) |
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