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Pathologist/doctor codes:
Specimen CPT-4 code Charge Reasoning
intra-operative FNA consult7 883291*** none as of 5/061 the pathologist's and cytotechnologist's participation eliminate repeat surgery1
pathologist performs the percutaneous FNA/biopsy without imaging guidance 10021 full we put a premium on convenience2
immediate cytohistological diagnosis for adequacy 88172 none (but see notes, below) our effort does not precisely meet the code criteria on deep FNAs3
using sterile technique, pathologist insures that specimen goes properly to microbiology when ordered or indicated *** none
(effort as part of 88329)
 
core biopsy touch prep preparation, screening, & interpretation/diagnosis7,8 88161   not charged when there is no core biopsy (it has to do with tissue core, not the FNA specimen)
aspirate cytology interpretation & report 88173 full use this code even when slides are sent in from an office (if a tube of fluid is sent, it is a cyst aspirate, not an FNA; has a technical and professional component because this is the only aspirate cytoprep charge (other than possibly 88172) regardless of using one or more techniques11
cell block histology interpretation & report 88305 usually not charged if case includes cores (but could charge one code per each cell block10)  
co-incidental core biopsies (if any) interpretation & report 88305 or
88307
full cores are encouraged5
special IHC marker stains done by us 88342 full saves time and additional invasive procedures4
organism special stains done by us 88312 full  
non-organism special stains done by us 88313 full  
review previous slides for comparison 88321 or 88325 none this is often done, but we don't charge for this often- tedious effort
spontaneous intramural consultations (IPCs) 88321 or 88325 none a given case may have up to an additional six pathologists review and interpretations within our group
intramural 2nd opinion on our slides, officially requested by clinician 88321 or 88325 none infrequent event
expert outside consultation requested 88321 or 88325 expert charges patient9 done as needed
special marker stains from a distant reference lab   ref. lab charges patient  assumes that expert interprets
transportation charge 99001 we charge if it costs us6  
Radiologist's/gastroenterologist's codes:
procedure CPT4 Code Charge Comment
doctor performs the percutaneous FNA/biopsy procedure without imaging guidance

10021***

 

rare (except in facilities where the technologist does the imaging guidance)

doctor performs the percutaneous FNA/biopsy procedure with imaging guidance 10022***   common; op note might mention FNA, Chiba needle, aspirating with syringe attached to the needle, or expressing the specimen (a fluid or clot) into a bottle or fluid
radiologist's fluoroscopic guidance for percutaneous needle placement (implies one code for each lesion sampled) for biopsy procedure 76003   biopsies tend to mention a biopsy gun, possibly "firing" the biopsy device; a tissue specimen or fragment being removed from the needle
radiologist's CT guidance for percutaneous needle placement (implies one code for each lesion sampled) for biopsy procedure 76360   common; biopsies tend to mention a biopsy gun, possibly "firing" the biopsy device; a tissue specimen or fragment being removed from the needle
radiologist's MRI guidance for percutaneous needle placement (implies one code for each lesion sampled) for biopsy procedure 76393   biopsies tend to mention a biopsy gun, possibly "firing" the biopsy device; a tissue specimen or fragment being removed from the needle
radiologist's ultrasound guidance for percutaneous needle placement (implies one code for each lesion sampled) for biopsy procedure 76942   biopsies tend to mention a biopsy gun, possibly "firing" the biopsy device; a tissue specimen or fragment being removed from the needle
doctor (probably a gastroenterologist) performs transendoscopic ultrasound guided FNA/biopsy during esophagoscopy 43232    
doctor (probably a gastroenterologist) performs transendoscopic ultrasound guided FNA/biopsy during EGD [ERCP?] (upper GI tract) 43242    
doctor (probably a gastroenterologist) performs transendoscopic ultrasound guided FNA/biopsy during rectocolonic endoscopy 45342    

Notes/references:  ( ***items without a technical component chargeable by the facility)

  1. Many years ago, we discovered that we could eliminate the need for repeat procedures if (a) we were always on standby (deep FNAs need not be scheduled during usual hours...our constant availability reduces stress on the radiologist team) and (b) if the pathologist was in the operative room and (c) helped the biopsying doctor with the procedure and, by having exact case information and differential diagnosis information (multidisciplinary discussion and imaging review), (d) consulted on both the types (need for cores , culture, etc.) and adequacy of the specimens. By being there, the pathologist has the opportunity to view the fresh aspirate color and consistency and discern whether to save for culture and whether adequate sample has been obtained...and, depending on the riskiness of the target location and the details of the differential diagnosis, to interpret when to ask for more specimen or when to stop. We used 88329 because there was no other suitable code. But, in a coding audit May 2006, we were told that there is no compensation code for this valuable and that we'd just have to quit doing the work or do it without a specific fee.
  2. If referred patients are electively scheduled for one of our pathologists to do a superficial FNA, we are usually able to operate at the convenience of the patient. And, we make a microscopic assessment prior to the patient leaving (qualifying for an 88172 charge). We promptly respond to radiation oncology and other services for pathologist-performed superficial FNAs in the hospital.
  3. Leslie Narramore of CAP (e-mail 22 March 2002), referring to a CAP web file written about 1999, indicates that this code 88172 is able to be filed for each fine needle aspirate on which the operator asks the pathologist for a determination of adequacy (determination implies more than a strong naked-eye consultative opinion...implying the equivalent of a FS Dx, that is, an opinion based on rapid microscopic exam). It is also implicit that the operator will base the decision to terminate the procedure (or obtain another specimen) on that diagnosis.
  4. Markers often give both organ-specific diagnostic and therapeutic information...way beyond what is possible by routine H&E...usually requiring a core biopsy specimen.
  5. Cores generally obtain enough tumor for both marker-stain evaluation and appreciation of the tumor's microscopic pattern (not so with aspirate smears and usually not so with cell blocks, alone).
  6. Some reference labs provide prepaid express shipping. We have to handle the case materials clerically, and the pathologist usually has to carefully review slides and blocks to pick the best sample for the reference test. But we don't charge for such handling. We use the reference labs for markers which are either very difficult or unusual. That is, nothing is sent for a reference lab marker which is not medically necessary.
  7. Dennis I. Padget, 2 May 2002 CME in Pittsburgh (Padget & Associates, 501 Noland Rd., Simpsonville, KY 40067, 502-722-8873.
  8. Beth McDevitt, PSA Coding and Compliance, various telephone conversations and e-mails, Jan 2002-present.
  9. The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology and The Mayo Clinic will not bill patients for consults; so, our group or Lexington Medical Center would cover the charge and then bill the patient.
  10. Today's Health, Fall 2002, Quantum Business Service, Coding Q&A by Dennis Padget (noting an official response from AMA CPT Information Services)
  11. Pathology/Lab Coding Alert 3(12):95-96, Dec 2002

(posted 10 September 2002; latest additions 14 June 2006)

 
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